Topic: This is an interesting title (Read 448 times)

digitalrasta · « **on:** March 12, 2010, 10:00:12 PM »

Disclaimer-this is analogy, the words being used are for descriptive purposes only, filtered through this ones neuronal meatbag of collective experience, not intended to describe actual events or places.

Have been pondering the mandelbrot set as a handy way to visualize the fractal multiverse.

This entity, although infinite of itself, is the result of an equation that has infinty as its outcome. Within this ever unfolding creation is contained all parralel universes, all dimensions, the source in action, that which came from the Primary Event, the whole multiverse is contained in the set, for the sake of this rambling anyway.

This unfolding fractal of pure potential is unfolding into infinity real, raw unformed potential. Is in essence drawing on this sea of unmoulded infinite potential to supply what we percieve as our own type of infinite potential as provided by the initial conditions.

There is an ever changing membrane that encloses the multiverse we percieve (the set), the transition phase plain where raw potential becomes moulded and harnessed potential.

This one has been seeing itself smeared across this membrane, looking in one sees the set in all its wonder unfolding, peering t'other way is the raw void, the ocean of can be rather than is.

It feels like letting go of the set is a good thing.

To become a big bang, a cosmic egg, a source.

Another cosmic supercomputer run by consciousness gnawing away at the raw intelligence of the swollen void.

Just an observation about the Mandelbrot set,. The ever converging off to infinity lines in the negative x axis circle infinity and their shockwave in the void causes the dent in the positive x axis.

Why limit yourself to 5d?

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #1 on:** March 13, 2010, 12:55:09 AM »

Bravo... Makes me think of when we were talking about "exploring the meat".

D'angel, I can already hear you laughing.

and what would happen if one were to let go of the "faculties" when getting to that "point" that we had discussed before. I know that when I was there last consciously I became fearful of the possible result of "not being able to come back", but that was maybe 15 years ago and a hell of a lot of consciousness expansion since then.

From the perspective I have we are all dong the same damn thing. The whole concept of "hierarchy" as (I) have been experiencing it is just the realization of self the becoming of spirit, the training through degrees of cosmic consciousness with the mentoring of a pre existing pattern to mimic its core "primordial" unmanifest expression and "do it again". The paradox seems to be the one laid out in the fundamental design of separating from source to learn how to do it on "one's" own, but is one ever "really" separated from source?

Since moving on from the law of one, I am working on the law of none, but my understanding is that it somehow leads back to the law of one.

We can have this conversation again in a zillion years and see how things turned out thus far. Or we could just do it now.

ivytub · « **Reply #2 on:** March 13, 2010, 07:12:14 AM »

Quote from: digitalrasta on March 12, 2010, 10:00:12 PM

Have been pondering the mandelbrot set as a handy way to visualize the fractal multiverse.

This entity, although infinite of itself, is the result of an equation that has infinty as its outcome. Within this ever unfolding creation is contained all parralel universes, all dimensions, the source in action, that which came from the Primary Event, the whole multiverse is contained in the set, for the sake of this rambling anyway.

This unfolding fractal of pure potential is unfolding into infinity real, raw unformed potential. Is in essence drawing on this sea of unmoulded infinite potential to supply what we percieve as our own type of infinite potential as provided by the initial conditions.

There is an ever changing membrane that encloses the multiverse we percieve (the set), the transition phase plain where raw potential becomes moulded and harnessed potential.

This one has been seeing itself smeared across this membrane, looking in one sees the set in all its wonder unfolding, peering t'other way is the raw void, the ocean of can be rather than is.

It feels like letting go of the set is a good thing.

To become a big bang, a cosmic egg, a source.

Another cosmic supercomputer run by consciousness gnawing away at the raw intelligence of the swollen void.

Just an observation about the Mandelbrot set,. The ever converging off to infinity lines in the negative x axis circle infinity and their shockwave in the void causes the dent in the positive x axis.

Why limit yourself to 5d?

I was just doing the same thing last night. I had a big discussion about how it seems to me the Mandlebrot set is a thought gadget (creates understanding) at best, but is so limiting, like circular logic. It is at the same time so uninformative, science peering at nature within a carefully designed formula, objectively seeing simply an 'is'. How expansive and free to experience nature/cosmos by merging [you said it well] 'into infinity real, raw unformed potential' via 'peering t'other way' at the 'raw void, the ocean of can be rather than is'. When the in presence of another human being to merge with them each moment experienceing them as 'infinity real, raw unformed potential', to consider all of creation as a process of 'infinity real, raw unformed potential' infinately unfolding in increasing complexity, in flux. Science has always frustrated me the way it 'looks' at a piece of nature, in a moment of time within the flux and thinks it has captured and seen nature/reality. Nature is the context, we are missing understanding I am sure when we do not see within the whole context. 'Letting go of the Mandelbrot' so to speak is a choice, a chosen philisophical way of 'be-ing' which affectively alters your perspective thereby changing what you are able perceive, in effect vastly vastly more debth, enabelling you to affectively merge with all.

It's Saturday morning and I'm having my morning tea

just so you know the context of my wakefulness.

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #3 on:** March 13, 2010, 11:25:11 AM »

Quote from: ivytub on March 13, 2010, 07:12:14 AM

Quote from: digitalrasta on March 12, 2010, 10:00:12 PM
Have been pondering the mandelbrot set as a handy way to visualize the fractal multiverse.

This entity, although infinite of itself, is the result of an equation that has infinty as its outcome. Within this ever unfolding creation is contained all parralel universes, all dimensions, the source in action, that which came from the Primary Event, the whole multiverse is contained in the set, for the sake of this rambling anyway.

This unfolding fractal of pure potential is unfolding into infinity real, raw unformed potential. Is in essence drawing on this sea of unmoulded infinite potential to supply what we percieve as our own type of infinite potential as provided by the initial conditions.

There is an ever changing membrane that encloses the multiverse we percieve (the set), the transition phase plain where raw potential becomes moulded and harnessed potential.

This one has been seeing itself smeared across this membrane, looking in one sees the set in all its wonder unfolding, peering t'other way is the raw void, the ocean of can be rather than is.

It feels like letting go of the set is a good thing.

To become a big bang, a cosmic egg, a source.

Another cosmic supercomputer run by consciousness gnawing away at the raw intelligence of the swollen void.

Just an observation about the Mandelbrot set,. The ever converging off to infinity lines in the negative x axis circle infinity and their shockwave in the void causes the dent in the positive x axis.

Why limit yourself to 5d?

I was just doing the same thing last night. I had a big discussion about how it seems to me the Mandlebrot set is a thought gadget (creates understanding) at best, but is so limiting, like circular logic. It is at the same time so uninformative, science peering at nature within a carefully designed formula, objectively seeing simply an 'is'. How expansive and free to experience nature/cosmos by merging [you said it well] 'into infinity real, raw unformed potential' via 'peering t'other way' at the 'raw void, the ocean of can be rather than is'. When the in presence of another human being to merge with them each moment experienceing them as 'infinity real, raw unformed potential', to consider all of creation as a process of 'infinity real, raw unformed potential' infinately unfolding in increasing complexity, in flux. Science has always frustrated me the way it 'looks' at a piece of nature, in a moment of time within the flux and thinks it has captured and seen nature/reality. Nature is the context, we are missing understanding I am sure when we do not see within the whole context. 'Letting go of the Mandelbrot' so to speak is a choice, a chosen philisophical way of 'be-ing' which affectively alters your perspective thereby changing what you are able perceive, in effect vastly vastly more debth, enabelling you to affectively merge with all.

It's Saturday morning and I'm having my morning tea just so you know the context of my wakefulness.

Damn this is/was/ shall be getting good.

D'angel · « **Reply #4 on:** March 13, 2010, 04:17:24 PM »

Quote from: non-e-raygun on March 13, 2010, 12:55:09 AM

Bravo... Makes me think of when we were talking about "exploring the meat".

D'angel, I can already hear you laughing.

snigger snigger

CSIWEMBLEY · « **Reply #5 on:** March 13, 2010, 04:26:27 PM »

from one point of view?

its only just started

.... i am enjoying it

as far as not limiting ourselves to 5D ... is it not prudent to learn how to walk before trying to run?

Mst'G.K. · « **Reply #6 on:** March 13, 2010, 05:16:19 PM »

Whahahahah, awesome synchronous magickz as always going on here

(you guys should see the numbers in the post timestamps in this timezone

) I was talking to a housemate about the infinite/fractal nature of our universe just yesterday evening ^_^.

Quote from: Nevermore

... I am one with the universe.

TIXOMIR · « **Reply #7 on:** March 13, 2010, 06:51:25 PM »

digitalrasta · « **Reply #8 on:** March 13, 2010, 09:18:59 PM »

........from one point of view its only just started..............learning to walk before you can run.

From another point of view its coming to its finale alpha omega alpha omega.
If you were born walking its time to run, if born running its time to fly, if born flying ?

Dont believe, dont believe, dont believe the hype.

This one just keeps thinking, divinity experiencing what its like to be human.

none -e, if we met in a zillion years we would meet as two multi verses, trillions of years old, using a language unimagined to communicate through the raw void our experiences of being a multiverse and still saying--how many layers does this fucking onion have?

no fear · « **Reply #9 on:** March 13, 2010, 11:49:24 PM »

that's profoundly deep, digi, thanks

To me, life is all about the experiences we gain and the lessons we learn. While there's truly nothing limiting us from transcending to higher dimensions, I'm looking forward to experiencing 5d in it's fullest capacity. When time is irrelevent, then so is the length of this journey as well as the number of incredible experiences I'll gain along the way.


Aerosmith - I Don't Wanna Miss a Thing

ivytub · « **Reply #10 on:** March 14, 2010, 07:30:17 AM »

To slightly modify what I said earlier, it is not either or, looking one way or the other it is looking from such directions at once. The culture has focused on science as the only legitimate way so there is a tendency for those who see other views to assert their view in reaction. That is what I was doing. I believe it is the 'all views' standpoint that gives the best experience and therefore understanding.

To add to what others are saying about not skipping over experiences (not sure one actually could), transcend levels that you are at when ready and when you do you are also including those earlier onces, it is not about discarding them. Ken Wilber has nicely articulated that we transcend and include, transcend and include. This describes what I've experienced. For me it is like viewing from a more expansive space therefore seeing more depth and including more aspects like intensity, volumn, interconnectedness and so on - digi's onion - new levels but still part of a whole. And for me it's not about who gets there first. I'm not in a race. For me it's about the wow, the experience you have yourself, not simply hearing it from someone else and then imagining it although that is a part of it, that's why I converse with others. Hearing another persons' perspective is potentially a portal so to speak that may usher in a new way of perceiving by including some aspect you hadn't considered before, a new onion layer. I enjoy the journey in all is tiny intricacies. The way up and the way down are one in the same - Heracilitus. So calmly, awarely, intunely, and with both focused intent and not, I live my days and the nights . . . lucid living! Flow! Flux! Fire!

CSIWEMBLEY · « **Reply #11 on:** March 14, 2010, 08:34:30 AM »

in 3D we learnt how to walk ...

in 4D we are learning how to run ...

in 5D we will FLY!

and more ...

digitalrasta · « **Reply #12 on:** March 14, 2010, 07:08:34 PM »

I understand but that isnt really what I was getting at.

Other consciousnesses are incarnated here and now from, for arguments sake, the 4th through the 15th dimensions as well as "alien' consciounesses.

Just saying some are born flying and are here to assist, to witness or just are here for the ride. Rather than "waking up" already are awake, consciounesses that have been on the toric merry go round for a long time, have been biological entities, solar and planetary entities, galactic entities, stuffed into this human experience, cups running over.

CSIWEMBLEY · « **Reply #13 on:** March 14, 2010, 08:28:13 PM »

Quote from: digitalrasta on March 14, 2010, 07:08:34 PM

I understand but that isnt really what I was getting at.

Other consciousnesses are incarnated here and now from, for arguments sake, the 4th through the 15th dimensions as well as "alien' consciounesses.

Just saying some are born flying and are here to assist, to witness or just are here for the ride. Rather than "waking up" already are awake, consciounesses that have been on the toric merry go round for a long time, have been biological entities, solar and planetary entities, galactic entities, stuffed into this human experience, cups running over.

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #14 on:** March 14, 2010, 08:33:23 PM »

Quote from: digitalrasta on March 14, 2010, 07:08:34 PM

I understand but that isnt really what I was getting at.

Other consciousnesses are incarnated here and now from, for arguments sake, the 4th through the 15th dimensions as well as "alien' consciounesses.

Just saying some are born flying and are here to assist, to witness or just are here for the ride. Rather than "waking up" already are awake, consciounesses that have been on the toric merry go round for a long time, have been biological entities, solar and planetary entities, galactic entities, stuffed into this human experience, cups running over.

I got it man. Cupeth overfloweth while spinning plates to boot here.

One of the great things about this current "situation" has been seeing the variance of "dimensional" (for lack of a better word)spectrum laid out in the understandings of "others". There really are no "others", but one can "work with that" understanding for what it is and what it is for. The "reality" of why and when and how to even begin to...

Its all here "now", but to understand the reason and purpose for "things" from the perspective of it on it's own plane. Personally or as personally as I can get, it has been becoming more and more challenging to communicate while understanding fully that the expressions have outgrown their containers. Art is a great medium for the x-large to express itself through

. No longer wondering how to change the world, but knowing that the planet is not a baby and can change itself as it realizes it's desire to.

I've parked the cosmic camper on the mental plane to communicate, but only because the plane "beyond it" is not in need of expression in that form. And that "still ain't the half of it".

Piggybacking selves upon selves that swirl around selves that unite in the cosmic dance only to go home alone, yet to meet up at the next "get together" ,geomantic entities/intelligences forcefully creating and emanating galaxies without substance only to "split up" and energize it "later".

Stash

I'm pulling the pavement from under my nails
I brush past a garden, dependent on whales
The sloping companion I cast down the ash
Yanked on my tunic and dangled my stash

Zipping through the forest with the curdling fleas
To grow with them spindles, the mutant I seize
I capture the dread beast who falls to his knees
And cries to his cohorts, asleep in the trees

Smegma, dogmatagram, fishmarket stew
Police in a corner, gunnin' for you
Appletoast, bedheated, furblanket rat
Laugh when they shoot you, say
"Please don't do that"

Control for smilers can't be bought
The solar garlic starts to rot
Was it for this my life I sought?
Maybe so and maybe not

-Phish

digitalrasta · « **Reply #15 on:** March 15, 2010, 07:10:44 AM »

know what its like to take a look
into the bright and shiny book
into the open scheme of things
the book of brilliant things

tra la la thanx jim kerr

Remember · « **Reply #16 on:** March 15, 2010, 08:21:54 PM »

awesome/validating post.

a river of pure consciousness. unlimited potential. the only limitation is self limitation and while some enjoy such limitation others are ready to "opt" in to their fullest potential. the choice is ours and i think we know exactly what it is we desire.. and so it is

Bullseye · « **Reply #17 on:** March 15, 2010, 10:20:42 PM »

When the Earth emerges from it's Chrysalis into a Sun, then a solar system, galaxy, etc...

I/you/ me/we/us/them/all/everybody...will be a part of it. In fact is already happened, there is no time. Experience any part of it you wish, it's all there already.

Remember · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2010, 12:59:48 PM »

Deep post. I think you're right on the money.

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