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First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« on: April 03, 2009, 05:45:58 PM »
For a few years I have said, there has to be an Iranian War first before the world gets desperate enough to sign the Covenant of Daniel by June of 2009.

Israel via its new hawkish government has promised they will attack sooner or later, so understand that they are just forecasting their devises as a P.R. ploy before they attack. Then America has to come to their aid, against Iran and its allies, and we are into a near WW#3. It escalates out of hand so much so that, the world economy stuggling as it is, is liable to go under, oil is disrupted, and a solution must be agreed upon.

Consequently they come up with a economic, military, government, and religious accord called the COVENANT that stops the idiotic war. ten nations sign and we have started the Last 7 Years. # and a ahlf years later the NWO leader is crowned, in December of 2012, and all the prophecies whether dark side or light side are further fulfilled at His evil COMING.

We have to survive the Iranian War first, then comes plagues, volcano's, earthquakes and the like...... and survival can take some intelligence not just 'luck'.

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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 04:46:53 AM »
I survived the Korean war,Vietnam,and all the rest since then,
i remember 1963 the so called missile crisis ,the fear that was going around at the time was heavy but we came through it and the sixties got going big time,
never underestimate the peoples resolve ;D
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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 07:16:02 AM »
I survived the Korean war,Vietnam,and all the rest since then,
i remember 1963 the so called missile crisis ,the fear that was going around at the time was heavy but we came through it and the sixties got going big time,
never underestimate the peoples resolve ;D
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Good on ya, dcdaveclarke - let's lighten up for all our sakes.

How do you sleep at night DavidJJordan?  How do you have the strength to get up in the morning?  How can you feel it's worth living from day to day?  It must be exhausting to be you, after all, you put so much energy into acknowledging the dark side.  I know I am exhausted reading about it.

I have a 14 year old daughter, if I truly believed the future held what you predict, I'd probably try to end it all for both of us.  For the sake of my child and for everyone's children we have to believe that the future is a bright and wonderful place.  It's not delusion, stupidity or short-sightedness - just hope, faith and love and the knowledge that we can make life beyond 2012 something fabulous.

Much love and peace and hope to you.
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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 08:19:08 AM »
Wars only exist for one reason ... to make the rich even richer, period!

(side effects? chaos then control)

                 
                          
 

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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2009, 08:23:56 AM »
And to sacrifice the heard  >:(



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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 08:54:03 AM »
I survived the Korean war,Vietnam,and all the rest since then,
i remember 1963 the so called missile crisis ,the fear that was going around at the time was heavy but we came through it and the sixties got going big time,
never underestimate the peoples resolve ;D
Joe Dolce - Shaddup You Face (1980)


DCDave, Korea didn't survive the Korean War, and the Vietanmese sufferred huge losses for the aggression that America did on them, and Central American and South Americans have sufferred greatly for the wars on them by America, so YES some will survive but many many died and paid the price of war mongering.

And so let's not be naive and pretend that war mongering doesn't maim and kill thousands and millions. Just because we survive hardly is an excuse to pretend that war is just a fear and not a REALITY.

Until you conquer war by the Prince of peace, you will always have war.

The Iranian War, is to lead up to the Covenant, and the Covenant leads to the enthronement of the NWO leader called by those that are aware...the ANTI-CHRIST

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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 08:59:11 AM »
Good on ya, dcdaveclarke - let's lighten up for all our sakes.

How do you sleep at night DavidJJordan?  How do you have the strength to get up in the morning?  How can you feel it's worth living from day to day?  It must be exhausting to be you, after all, you put so much energy into acknowledging the dark side.  I know I am exhausted reading about it.

I have a 14 year old daughter, if I truly believed the future held what you predict, I'd probably try to end it all for both of us.  For the sake of my child and for everyone's children we have to believe that the future is a bright and wonderful place.  It's not delusion, stupidity or short-sightedness - just hope, faith and love and the knowledge that we can make life beyond 2012 something fabulous.

Much love and peace and hope to you.
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Because of much love and peace and doing what I can for others while I can, I can sleep at night.

Juliap, hiding my head or your head under your pillow is hardly the way to go to sleep.

I acknowledge the LIGHT SIDE and know the DARK SIDE will be vanquished, you seem to pretend all sides are light and no evil exists in the world. How can you sleep at night under such a delusion. Do you unlock your doors and open them at night to invite those of the drak to enter in. I think not.

I wise man prepares himself and foresees the future, a fool does not, nor does a fool learn from the past.

Lets be wise and acknowledge the LIGHT and be on the winning side rather than on the fence in delusion and denial. This board is about survival, not sleeping while the NWO takes over.

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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 09:02:00 AM »
Wars only exist for one reason ... to make the rich even richer, period!

(side effects? chaos then control)

Listen to CSI !!!

Wars are for a reason

(Simple internet search called World War 3 will give you the blueprint of why the NWO had WW 1 and WW 2, it furthers Russia's position, for out of Russia comes the AC.)

Out of chaos comes the Covenant, and out of the Covenant comes the AC. That's the modus operandi of the Illuminati, so they can control those that are naive to their existence.

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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 09:28:53 AM »

DCDave, Korea didn't survive the Korean War, and the Vietnamese suffered huge losses for the aggression that America did on them, and Central American and South Americans have suffered greatly for the wars on them by America, so YES some will survive but many many died and paid the price of war mongering.



Take Hannibal his army was a few miles long and most of them walked! as they progress they have to feed the army so groups of his henchmen go off in different directions looking for food, history only mentions what was before him and a few miles around him,anybody living a couple of hundred miles away never heard of Hannibal
and lived in peace,my point is out of the billions of people on the planet we only here about "official history" .
Same in say India during the second world war at the end you could walk up to a guy and say did you know Hitler is dead? and he would say who's Hitler? billions were like him beautifully innocent! they and like us now produced
there own world with chaos all around them ;D






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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 09:58:03 AM »
Thank you DavidJJordan for clarifying the purpose of the Forum.

and thank you for highlighting my naivety.

I'm not advocating ignoring the dark side and pretending it doesn't exist.  I know bad things happen and that evil exists.  I know that wars are initiated to suit TPTB and that their control will attempt to ruin us all.  I'm not stupid or ignorant of the past and history.  I just believe that we don't have to accept that the world will be run by their rules -  I don't believe that the future is set down with a rigid set of events and outcomes. 

Self-sufficiency and sustainable living is something I am working on.  These are skills that we all need regardless of apocolyptic events.  I am trying to live with love, acceptance and respect for other people, their property and the planet.

Incidentally, I don't lock my doors at night.  What's mine is yours and everyone elses.



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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 11:41:39 AM »
I LIVE IN A PLACE ON EARTH WERE THE POLICE HAVE NOTTING TO DO ;)
and ive been sent here by my Higherself ;D



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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 11:51:52 AM »
yeah i met your higher self, a cool dude too, its fun seeing the similarities  when you are channeling him more
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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 12:08:25 PM »
When the shit hits the fan....
come over here and you can put your tent up in my back yard
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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2009, 01:45:28 PM »
I survived the Korean war,Vietnam,and all the rest since then,
i remember 1963 the so called missile crisis ,the fear that was going around at the time was heavy but we came through it and the sixties got going big time,
never underestimate the peoples resolve ;D
Joe Dolce - Shaddup You Face (1980)


Good on ya, dcdaveclarke - let's lighten up for all our sakes.

How do you sleep at night DavidJJordan?  How do you have the strength to get up in the morning?  How can you feel it's worth living from day to day?  It must be exhausting to be you, after all, you put so much energy into acknowledging the dark side.  I know I am exhausted reading about it.

I have a 14 year old daughter, if I truly believed the future held what you predict, I'd probably try to end it all for both of us.  For the sake of my child and for everyone's children we have to believe that the future is a bright and wonderful place.  It's not delusion, stupidity or short-sightedness - just hope, faith and love and the knowledge that we can make life beyond 2012 something fabulous.

Much love and peace and hope to you.
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So I hated life, because the work that is done under the sun was grievous to me. All of it is meaningless, a chasing after the wind. 
18 I hated all the things I had toiled for under the sun, because I must leave them to the one who comes after me.
19 And who knows whether he will be a wise man or a fool? Yet he will have control over all the work into which I have poured my  effort and skill under the sun.  This too is meaningless.
20 So my heart began to despair over all my toilsome labor under the sun.
21 For a man may do his work with wisdom, knowledge and skill, and then he must leave all he owns to someone who has not worked for it. This too is meaningless and a great misfortune.
22 what does a man get for all the toil and anxious striving with which he labors under the sun?
23 All his days his work is pain and grief; even at night his mind does not rest. This too is meaningless.

24 A man can do nothing better than to eat and drink and find satisfaction in his work. This too, I see, is from the hand of God,
25 For without him, who can eat or find enjoyment?
26To the man who pleases him, God gives wisdom, knowledge and happiness, but the sinner he gives the task of gathering and storing up wealth to hand it over to the one who pleases God.  This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

A Time for Everything
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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under heaven:
2 a time to be born and a time to die, a time to plant and a time to uproot,
3 a time to kill and a time to heal, a time to tear down and a time to build,
4 a time to weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn and a time to dance,
5 a time to scatter stones and a time to gather them, a time to embrace a a time to refrain,
6 a time to search and a time to give up, a time to keep and a time to throw away
7 a time to tear and a time to mend, a time to be silent and a time to speak,
8 a time to love and a time to hate, a time for war and a time for peace.

9 What does the worker gain from his toil?
10 I have seen the burden God has laid on men.
11 He has made everything beautiful in its time. He has also set eternity in the hearts of men; yet they cannot fathom what God has done from beginning to end.
12 I know that there is nothing better for men than to be happy and do good while they live.
13 That everyone may eat and drink, and find satisfaction in his toil- this is the gift of God.
14 I know that everything God does will endure forever; nothing can be added to it and nothing taken from it.  God does it so that men will revere him.

15 Whatever is has already been, and what will be has been before; and god will call the past to account.

16 And I saw something else under the sun: 
  In the place of judgment- wickedness was there, in the place of justice wickedness was there.

17 I thought in my heart,
   "God will bring to judgment both the righteous and the wicked, for there will be a time for every activity, a time for every deed."

18 I also thought, "As for men, God tests them so that they may see that they are like the animals. 
19 Man's fate is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath, man has no advantage over the animal. Everything is meaningless.
20 All go to the same place; all come from dust, and to dust all return.
21 Who knows if the spirit of man rises upward and if the spirit of the animal goes down into the earth?
22 So I saw that there is nothing better for a man than to enjoy h is work, because that is his lot. For who can bring him to see what will happen after him?

Oppression, Toil, Friendlessness
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Again I looked and saw all the oppression that was taking place under the sun: 
  I saw the tears of the oppressed- and they have no comforter; power was on the side of their oppressors- and they have no comforter.
2 And I declared that the dead who had already died, are happier than the living, who are still alive.
3 But better than both is he who has not yet been, who has not seen the evil that is done under the sun.

4 And I saw that all labor and all achievement spring from man's envy of his neighbor. This too is meaningless, a chasing after the wind.

5 The fool folds his hands and ruins himself.
6 Better one handful with tranquility than two handfuls with toil and chasing after the wind.

7 Again I saw something meaningless under the sun:
8 There was a man all alone; he had neither son nor brother. There was no end to his toil. yet his eyes were not content with his wealth.
 "For whom am I toiling," he asked "and why am I depriving myself of enjoyment?" This too is meaningless- a miserable business!

9 Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their work:
10 If one falls down, his friend can help him up. But pity the man who falls and has no one to help him up!
11 Also, if two lie down together, they will keep warm. But how can one keep warm alone?
12 Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.


  But all you have in this world is your choice to be happy and your choice to make it happy for those around you.  From the bible!  "Don't worry.  Be happy.  Keep loves and friends close"

Take this advise to heart or I man have to type out other long passages I may find.

And to my enemy.  I reach my hand.  Null your injustice.  So you too may be able to swim the river with us and not get left behind.

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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 01:52:28 PM »
"Don't worry.  Be happy.  Keep loves and friends close"

Thanks Shpannishpan - advice appreciated and understood. :)
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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2009, 03:28:47 PM »
as for the Korean War?      .... history records ....


it never ended!

                 
                          
 

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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 05:08:37 PM »
Don't worry, Be happy



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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #17 on: April 05, 2009, 10:00:03 AM »
Don't worry, Be happy


I reckon we can only keep our peace and be happy, if we do what we can for our fellow brethren. For if our happiness is just pulling the wool over our eyes and sleeping then that happiness is surely only self centered rather than deep and lasting.

If we do what we can, then we do not have to worry. If we do our part as a solution, then we can rest at night and have a clear conscience. But we can never get callous to the pain and suffering that others will go going through. Never. One for all, and all for one, brings peace and happiness.

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« Reply #18 on: April 05, 2009, 10:03:18 AM »
Yea i know thanks ;)
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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #19 on: April 05, 2009, 10:07:14 AM »
Thank you DavidJJordan for clarifying the purpose of the Forum.

and thank you for highlighting my naivety.

I'm not advocating ignoring the dark side and pretending it doesn't exist.  I know bad things happen and that evil exists.  I know that wars are initiated to suit TPTB and that their control will attempt to ruin us all.  I'm not stupid or ignorant of the past and history.  I just believe that we don't have to accept that the world will be run by their rules -  I don't believe that the future is set down with a rigid set of events and outcomes. 

Self-sufficiency and sustainable living is something I am working on.  These are skills that we all need regardless of apocolyptic events.  I am trying to live with love, acceptance and respect for other people, their property and the planet.

Incidentally, I don't lock my doors at night.  What's mine is yours and everyone elses.





As mentioned previously on another thread .. Juliap, good for you. I like your idnpendent and yet loving atitude.

Yet, let me HERE, tell you of a very sad instance in the Phillipines about twenty years ago.

We (wife and I) were working with helping mothers make income through cross stictching in their spare time. I designed them, gathered them and distributed money to them after delivery.

One of the YWAM other support families, was new to the area, and didn;t understand rich and poor, and the violence asscoiated with being tooo poor. They left their doors unlocked, and unfortunately one early morning, two guys came in and killed the couple, leaving the kids crying and in shock, and only got a few dollars for their efforts.

I hate locking doors, but for safety sake, I do it until the Prince of Peace ensures the safety of all.

So peace be upon you, Juliap and His protection even when sometimes we could have done more.






  But all you have in this world is your choice to be happy and your choice to make it happy for those around you.  From the bible!  "Don't worry.  Be happy.  Keep loves and friends close"

Take this advise to heart or I man have to type out other long passages I may find.



Better hand written words than mere quotes of others, but do go on, sis...

For peace is not when everything is peaceful but when in the midst of a storm. happiness is knowing we have wroked hard in helping others when we had a chance to, and didn;t waste time just on ourselves. To gather around friends, we haveto have concrete actions of love in the HERE and NOW so they bring us rewards of love and togetherness in the future. Then our happiness returns to us.

So AGREED with further explanation.

PST) Solomon had a lot to learn about peace and happiness, and yet started on that journey sorting it out.... Good one

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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2009, 10:54:33 AM »
Thank you DavidJJordan for clarifying the purpose of the Forum.

and thank you for highlighting my naivety.

I'm not advocating ignoring the dark side and pretending it doesn't exist.  I know bad things happen and that evil exists.  I know that wars are initiated to suit TPTB and that their control will attempt to ruin us all.  I'm not stupid or ignorant of the past and history.  I just believe that we don't have to accept that the world will be run by their rules -  I don't believe that the future is set down with a rigid set of events and outcomes. 

Self-sufficiency and sustainable living is something I am working on.  These are skills that we all need regardless of apocolyptic events.  I am trying to live with love, acceptance and respect for other people, their property and the planet.

Incidentally, I don't lock my doors at night.  What's mine is yours and everyone elses.





As mentioned previously on another thread .. Juliap, good for you. I like your idnpendent and yet loving atitude.

Yet, let me HERE, tell you of a very sad instance in the Phillipines about twenty years ago.

We (wife and I) were working with helping mothers make income through cross stictching in their spare time. I designed them, gathered them and distributed money to them after delivery.

One of the YWAM other support families, was new to the area, and didn;t understand rich and poor, and the violence asscoiated with being tooo poor. They left their doors unlocked, and unfortunately one early morning, two guys came in and killed the couple, leaving the kids crying and in shock, and only got a few dollars for their efforts.

I hate locking doors, but for safety sake, I do it until the Prince of Peace ensures the safety of all.

So peace be upon you, Juliap and His protection even when sometimes we could have done more.

Thanks for sharing your experience and for your kind thoughts. 

As I said, I know bad things happen and I am fortunate in that I've managed not to attract too many bad things in my life thus far.  I do believe that I am only responsible for my own thoughts and actions - I create my own world and try to protect my family as far as I can.  I am trying to develop non-attachment to material things - having lost homes, possessions and things of personal and sentimental value over the years I am becoming immune to the importance of the "things" we accumulate and appreciating the value of the less tangible.  I cannot claim to have perfected this - I am also learning to forgive my own mistakes and trying not to beat myself up too much when I go wrong. 

If I have learned anything recently it is to be gentle and loving to ourselves as much as to others.  I am who I am right now - if I am happy with myself as I am then I must accept that all the mistakes and bad things I have done in my life will have made me who I am, ergo they are not mistakes but the building blocks of who I am. 

Whatever the future brings beyond 2012, we have our higher selves to bring along with us - I cannot predict the future but as I have said I am responsible for my own actions  and the development of my own "soul" (as far as it's within my governance) and I'll not give in to the "facts" or otherwise that the future is filled with fear and control.

My reality is one of relative harmony - I am constantly learning (as are we all) and I am trusting that by our thoughts, actions and intentions we can form a positive future outcome.

Peace :)
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Re: First 'survive' the Iranian War Crisis.
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2009, 12:07:41 PM »
Thanks for sharing your experience and for your kind thoughts. 

As I said, I know bad things happen and I am fortunate in that I've managed not to attract too many bad things in my life thus far.  I do believe that I am only responsible for my own thoughts and actions - I create my own world and try to protect my family as far as I can.  I am trying to develop non-attachment to material things - having lost homes, possessions and things of personal and sentimental value over the years I am becoming immune to the importance of the "things" we accumulate and appreciating the value of the less tangible.  I cannot claim to have perfected this - I am also learning to forgive my own mistakes and trying not to beat myself up too much when I go wrong. 

If I have learned anything recently it is to be gentle and loving to ourselves as much as to others.  I am who I am right now - if I am happy with myself as I am then I must accept that all the mistakes and bad things I have done in my life will have made me who I am, ergo they are not mistakes but the building blocks of who I am. 

Whatever the future brings beyond 2012, we have our higher selves to bring along with us - I cannot predict the future but as I have said I am responsible for my own actions  and the development of my own "soul" (as far as it's within my governance) and I'll not give in to the "facts" or otherwise that the future is filled with fear and control.

My reality is one of relative harmony - I am constantly learning (as are we all) and I am trusting that by our thoughts, actions and intentions we can form a positive future outcome.

Peace :)

Whoa .... Juliap, I detect someone who has went around the block a few times and has learned some GREAT LESSONS in life and love. Small beginnings greater ends. And your end in dissociating yourself from the love and accumulating things is again admirable.

Ha. I remember Michael (a friend) giving the very shirt off his back when we both caught a guy stealing the clothes out of the car of someone else. That instant sacrifice of giving to someone that was stealing and needed some clothes, has stayed with me. And I am sure has stayed with the fellow who was going to steal.

Again, good on ya Juliap.... keep going and keep staying fiesty when others try to control you. You are worth so much...

You will make it.. And you shall surely fight and stay honourable til your passing.

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Netanyahoo, is having Israel prepare with a massive civilian exercise within two months... (obviously for a real prepartation of a war starting), Israeli missiles have been pointed towards Syria and Iran, and even an American General says it is a 50 50 chance Israel will strike pre-emptively.... meaning without cause...and America has promised to back them up in another war.

So its hardly going to be unexpected when it comes, and when the escalation happens so fast as Russia steps in, then nobody starts breaking apart the combatants with morality issues, and we are almost get into WW3.

Right on time so the Covenant gets signed in Mid June.

Three and a half years later... the AC arises on Dec 21, 2012

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« Reply #22 on: April 20, 2009, 09:10:28 PM »
Don't worry if you are spiritually prepared, otherwise your happiness is shallow and easily taken away.

O.K. The Un gave a conference, and then asked President of Iran to speak...... Come on, give us a break, anyone and everyone knows A would speak his mind and of course blame another country, and so infuriate those with ties with that other country, and so of course the conference would be a disaster and more fodder for the propaganda machines to provoke war, and try to state Iran was looking for it and deserving in getting it.

This was a set up by the UN, no one in their right mind would ask Pres. A to speak unless they wanted to cause more trouble.

Come on folks, see the writing on the wall.

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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2009, 03:32:06 AM »
Don't worry if you are spiritually prepared, otherwise your happiness is shallow and easily taken away.

O.K. The Un gave a conference, and then asked President of Iran to speak...... Come on, give us a break, anyone and everyone knows A would speak his mind and of course blame another country, and so infuriate those with ties with that other country, and so of course the conference would be a disaster and more fodder for the propaganda machines to provoke war, and try to state Iran was looking for it and deserving in getting it.

This was a set up by the UN, no one in their right mind would ask Pres. A to speak unless they wanted to cause more trouble.

Come on folks, see the writing on the wall.


OK David - I see the writing on the wall - I have my spraycan of red paint ready - what am I going to write over it?

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« Reply #24 on: April 21, 2009, 08:51:47 AM »
The UN! ... :o

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« Reply #25 on: April 21, 2009, 08:58:22 AM »
Yea can say that again ;D



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« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2009, 12:51:44 PM »
Hitler was a little devil, all dictatorship are devils, all politicians become devils of power and control.

As YES, the DEVIL wants a one world government and was promised it by the Lord, so as to culminate all history and give people the ultimate choice, and they shall choose the devil rather than love to save them. they will choose submission rather than fighting against the power that will be enthroned.

The UN is just a starting point, even though in some ways it brings peace from the war mongering states like the US that are constantly waging war. Through chaos the NWO comes into being, and YES its ultimate leader will be enthroned as the NEW MESSIAH of 2012, and all will have to obey them, even those that have worshipped 2012 as the start of the new ERA. For them the naive, he will be their hope and glory and Saviour....for they will choose poorly.

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« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2009, 06:43:42 PM »
Do you see the antichrist as a person, an entity, or a force, or all of the above?

a virus in a computer? a cancer in humanity? one bad apple in the barrel? ... or? a bit of each? :)

forgive me :-[ ... same difference? ;)

                 
                          
 

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« Reply #28 on: April 22, 2009, 10:24:21 PM »
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Do you see the antichrist as a person, an entity, or a force, or all of the above?


Prophetically speaking the anti-christ is just a man, born and raised HERE on Earth, who arises from Russia after the Covenant is signed (The Covenant coming after the iranian War). he is a military leader who arises from the seemingly poor people, and yet the richest of the richest and the Illuminati has established him and trained him, for their day in the Sun.

At midpoint, meaning three and a half years into the Last 7 years after the Covenant signing, then the spirit of the devil, satan, whatever name you choose..... eneters into him so that he is more than a mere man, just as Christ was more than a mere man.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Anti-ChristsProphecies.html

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« Reply #29 on: April 22, 2009, 10:30:09 PM »

a virus in a computer? a cancer in humanity? one bad apple in the barrel? ... or? a bit of each? :)

forgive me :-[ ... same difference? ;)

The virus is selfishness, the cancer is pride and arrogancy, and it effects all humans. The cure is the Creator .. JESUS.


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« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2009, 10:46:36 PM »
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The virus is selfishness, the cancer is pride and arrogancy, and it effects all humans. The cure is the Creator .. JESUS.

Ok, deep breath here, but I don't understand why you preach this when Jesus himself preached love (as far as the texts I have read are accurate.....)    We all know we have "sucked", "sinned", whatever term we apply but is it truly the way to spread "the message"?  Who stoned the adulterous woman?  Jesus hanging on a cross with sinners assured them both (one who was non-repentant) that today you will be with me in paradise.  Do people respond better with "APOCOLAPSE" or "ACCEPTANCE"?  I don't have all the answers, in fact, learning every day, but I want no part of a "God" or "Saviour" that made me the way I am, even with free will, with the possibility of eternal punishment.  I have read your posts and think your intellect is brilliant, do you have repressed guilt tied to this?  Wishing LOVE for all....
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2009, 02:10:45 AM »
....if jesus is the creater than his father the true god is what??
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2009, 09:03:23 AM »



step 1   obtain can of worms
step 2   open said can of worms

step 3   attach one of said can of worms to line and see what bites ;)      ..... or who! ::)

                 
                          
 

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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2009, 12:17:12 PM »
Ok, deep breath here, but I don't understand why you preach this when Jesus himself preached love (as far as the texts I have read are accurate.....)    We all know we have "sucked", "sinned", whatever term we apply but is it truly the way to spread "the message"?

Yes, a deep breath in, and Jesus is the cure for cancer, as cancer is believeing a lie in the code. Jesus is love, reral love and real reaqlity where reral people do not have love and do not want to part with their selfishness and pride. After that true deep breath, surely you can not disagree with this basic fact of human nature.

 Who stoned the adulterous woman?   The scribes and pharuisees and those thast hated love and mercy because they were SELF righteous

Jesus hanging on a cross with sinners assured them both (one who was non-repentant) that today you will be with me in paradise.   Exactly and great verse, as it just takes acceptance of Jesus and His mercy to get into Paradise.

Do people respond better with "APOCOLAPSE" or "ACCEPTANCE"?  Some are saved so as by fire, because they just don;t learn any other way. That's a fact of life, most of us need to go through the bad before we appreciate the good, and most of us have to experience and choose before we learn to make the right choices.

I don't have all the answers, in fact, learning every day, but I want no part of a "God" or "Saviour" that made me the way I am, even with free will, with the possibility of eternal punishment. Jesus talked about ETERNAL MERCY, His Mercy is from everlasting to everlasting , only a very very very few will ever have eternal punishment, and that only because they are so obstinate they choose punishment and pain over simple mercy to the Lord and of the LORD

  I have read your posts and think your intellect is brilliant, do you have repressed guilt tied to this? (Nah, just step by step via experiences and what I learn, just keep a going. Got to do our best for others)

 Wishing LOVE for all....
And to you, because it is the worsdt of times and the very BEST OF TIMES> This is the generation that ALL, I repeat ALL the Lord's past people wish they were living IN. And we have the good fortune of being in it, it just depends on our choices and our hearts motivations.
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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2009, 12:25:40 PM »
....if jesus is the creater than his father the true god is what??

Is water, liquid, solid or gas ? All, it depends on the state its IN, but all states are water.

Jesus is the Father and is ONE> Isaiah 9:6 etc. etc. etc.

SEE Tara's sketch or vision, even though I am not sure she is a Christian and yet she saw the father, the Mother and the SON< as one in three different states.

All exactly in the form of the Tree of Life, the Kaballah Tree, the Flower of Life, sacred Geometry of Chartres, the Hexagon, Styar of david, Seal of Solomon. They all show three circles that are One... which is greater, none as they are all ONE.

Is the Father greater than the MOTHER< NO !! Is the SON greater than the MOTHER or the MOTHER greater than the SON, NO, they are ONE and the same in different forms.

Are males greater than females NO, does age or size determine power or wisdom, NO.

Jesus was the Creator and is the Father and MOTHER and they are HIM. In the BEGINNING was the WORD.

Do you catch it ?


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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2009, 12:30:29 PM »
Come on David its the kind of question a Kid would ask at Sunday School!
Nearly one third of the Population of the Planet never heard of Jesus! were do they stand in the scheme of things?   >:(



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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2009, 01:20:57 PM »
He's been there and gone,besides he's cool with me because i got a few more to read "Hidden-Hand" 8)



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The serpents and I are having a good laugh.
They just wanted me to let you know
that they are waiting for Lucifer to enter your heart
and return you to Christ.  ;)




haha .. thats why i only use AMD Athlon processors, i dont like serPENTIUMs ::)

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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2009, 01:23:40 PM »
Anyway the real Jesus is a good mate of mine! has been for a very long time indeed ;)



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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2009, 01:38:12 PM »
duality to singularity, logical 8)