Topic: Star Systems and Preferences (Read 754 times)

no fear · « **on:** December 29, 2009, 01:09:51 PM »

Star Systems and Preferences

After studying theology and religion, I find it hard to believe that we all came from Noah and his family, especially when you take into consideration all of the different blood types and ethnicities of people, along with the impossible task of rounding up animals from all over the world to put on an ark (e.g. penguins, sea lions, polar bears, etc...). My conclusion is that we were seeded here from different star systems (along with animals from those places), which would explain the genetic diversity and different blood types of people.

In this frame of thought, is it possible that we are attracted to those from our own star systems? It seems people have certain preferences in what they look for in others, such as intelligence, humor, body frames, musical preferences, pet preferences, preferable climates etc, that resonate with one another.

Sometimes, I'll find myself looking at a star in the sky for no reason. It might not be the brightest star (and I know what you're thinking...LOL) but there's an attraction...almost a feeling of being compelled to look at it. It makes me wonder...

Or have we simply known the people in our lives from previous lives?

Or both?

Your thoughts?

Wolven · « **Reply #1 on:** December 29, 2009, 02:03:02 PM »

I have wondered something like this before. You see two animals from the same species and they look almost exactly the same. Yes, there are differences, but they are very tiny. You see two human beings and they don't really look similar. Every one is different, not only in personality, the face is different, why?

There is something special about us, more than our intelligence and our capability of feeling. I don't know if science explains this differences in our face (aside from DNA). You may be right, but I don't know. I don't recall starring at a star. I like to see all stars. Being living in the city doesn't help to see how nice the sky is. At both day and night.

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #2 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:10:02 PM »

Go to a planet that is in a 4-d cycle on the descent.
Hang out in the astral realm of the planet.
Project an astral shell of yourself.
Be patient for 3-d lifewave to arrive. Add water.
Instant biped

Come back later
Ensoul the entity by incarnating into the shell
voila. instant self conscious being.

dcdaveclarke · « **Reply #3 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:20:34 PM »

Adam's Mother and Father were Martian's!

living_the_illusion · « **Reply #4 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:33:30 PM »

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In this frame of thought, is it possible that we are attracted to those from our own star systems?

I think this is probably close to the truth. It would make sense that our vibrations are probably closer to those who came from our star system.

Do you know where you came from Gregg?

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #5 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:45:34 PM »

Quote from: dcdaveclarke on December 29, 2009, 05:20:34 PM

Adam's Mother and Father were Martian's!

Is this a question or an answer?

dcdaveclarke · « **Reply #6 on:** December 29, 2009, 05:55:45 PM »

Quote from: non-e-raygun on December 29, 2009, 05:45:34 PM

Quote from: dcdaveclarke on December 29, 2009, 05:20:34 PM
Adam's Mother and Father were Martian's!
Is this a question or an answer?

A question for the one's that havent a clue!

an a answer for thoes that do have some clues!

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #7 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:03:50 PM »

Quote from: dcdaveclarke on December 29, 2009, 05:55:45 PM

Quote from: non-e-raygun on December 29, 2009, 05:45:34 PM
Quote from: dcdaveclarke on December 29, 2009, 05:20:34 PM
Adam's Mother and Father were Martian's!
Is this a question or an answer?
A question for the one's that havent a clue! an a answer for thoes that do have some clues!

Then who is Adam?

no fear · « **Reply #8 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:19:10 PM »

Quote from: living_the_illusion on December 29, 2009, 05:33:30 PM

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In this frame of thought, is it possible that we are attracted to those from our own star systems?

I think this is probably close to the truth. It would make sense that our vibrations are probably closer to those who came from our star system.

Do you know where you came from Gregg?

I have no idea but some of the closest people in my life seem like they're from this planet as well. There's that "click" that goes on when I'm with them. You could be away from these people for a long time and see them many years later as if no time elapsed at all. It's as if time becomes meaningless because you've known these people in many other lifetimes, so a few years seems like a few seconds in the face of eternity.

Any idea where you're from?

no fear · « **Reply #9 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:28:29 PM »

Quote from: non-e-raygun on December 29, 2009, 06:03:50 PM

Then who is Adam?

I'll take a guess:

Adam Kadmon from the Adamic race.
Lineage origin: Elohim
Star system of origin: Pleiades

living_the_illusion · « **Reply #10 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:28:49 PM »

LOL. I posted this without reading the above by Gregg.

I have people in my life like that too. I really do not know but for some reason wonder about Pleiades having some relevance? My favorite color shown in pic.

In astronomy, the Pleiades, or Seven Sisters, (Messier object 45) is an open star cluster containing relatively young hot B-type stars located in the constellation of Taurus. It is among the nearest star clusters to Earth and is the cluster most obvious to the naked eye in the night sky. Pleiades has several meanings in different cultures and traditions.

The cluster is dominated by hot blue and extremely luminous stars that have formed within the last 100 million years. Dust that forms a faint reflection nebulosity around the brightest stars was thought at first to be left over from the formation of the cluster (hence the alternate name Maia Nebula after the star Maia), but is now known to be an unrelated dust cloud in the interstellar medium that the stars are currently passing through. Astronomers estimate that the cluster will survive for about another 250 million years, after which it will disperse due to gravitational interactions with its galactic neighborhood.

Wolven · « **Reply #11 on:** December 29, 2009, 06:48:42 PM »

There is something about that image that makes me feel different, I grined when I saw that image bigger, usually seeing something like this makes me feel sick or something, but not bad. Theres is a feeling in the top of my head.
I think (I'm not sure) that this are the stars that cought my attention the last couple of days. I'm not sure, because these stars I'm mentioning were like pointint to the oppossite direction (if you see, the main four stars are like some kind of dropper, if you connect the stars with lines. But this could be because I live in the southern hemisphere and because of my possition and the time.

How weird. Aren't one of the human species from outer space from the Pleiades?

Strange cause I also had the thought when I was a kid that there were humans from other planets, everybody said No.
Weird.

Remember · « **Reply #12 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:03:12 PM »

I agree with you 100%.

I don't know where I'm from but there are not a lot of people that I have encountered thus far in my life where I felt there was a strong connection, biological family included. I used to always think I was a reject or something - some sort of a mistake. Why am I so tall skinny and lanky? Why no facial structure? Why crooked teeth? I could go somewhere else as well but I believe I have the shoes I have on for a reason. Karma? A challenge? I lean more so on the former however it has and continues to be one hell of a challenge, that's for sure. Sleeping till 2PM because you want to give up can be challenging to say the least.

Sorry to divert this thread but I found this rather interesting.. Before I left to Washington I had an episode and repeatedly went over "I will kill myself" for at least an hour or so.... Coincidentally months later I was in a room by myself accompanied by a rifle with a loaded clip.. I will not say the thought didn't cross my mind however I have already experienced myself killing myself during this experience and fortunately am still here now, blessed be.

My mind said, ew, I don't want to post that.. but it came out so I might as well go with it. Tons of people kill themselves every day we all know this.. Many speculate as to what happens after choosing to do so and perhaps the result varies based upon the way in which you go out including informing friends, family, etc and also the perspective you hold.. I know I could never justify it for any reason so I would imagine I would end up in a similar space as I was after my failed attempt... HELL. LOL.

I hope someone is able to extract something out of my post.. and to be honest... I feel like a big fat pussy for even considering resorting to suicide but once again these kicks are laced the way they are for a reason... I just can't see that not the case.

Post Merge: December 29, 2009, 07:14:20 PM

Quote from: Wolven on December 29, 2009, 06:48:42 PM

There is something about that image that makes me feel different, I grined when I saw that image bigger, usually seeing something like this makes me feel sick or something, but not bad. Theres is a feeling in the top of my head.
I think (I'm not sure) that this are the stars that cought my attention the last couple of days. I'm not sure, because these stars I'm mentioning were like pointint to the oppossite direction (if you see, the main four stars are like some kind of dropper, if you connect the stars with lines. But this could be because I live in the southern hemisphere and because of my possition and the time.

How weird. Aren't one of the human species from outer space from the Pleiades?

Strange cause I also had the thought when I was a kid that there were humans from other planets, everybody said No.
Weird.

My Mom told me within the past few years that I used to say "this is my planet!".

I also used to get this really weird phenomenon where I would be sleeping or falling asleep and everything around me seemed HUGE.. like it was all pulsating and getting bigger.. my eyes were closed but I could see. it was pretty uncomfortable to say the least and the first few times I was scared shitless!

living_the_illusion · « **Reply #13 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:15:41 PM »

I have wanted out of "here" many, many, many times too. I never "fit", always the observer outside looking in.

I don't mean this egoically, but Evo you have given a lot of love to people here. I imagine a lot in your day to day interactions with other-selves too.

3-D is extreme right now. You are a brave soul who knew he could do "it", and I am glad you jumped into your meat-suit to play with us.

I have had my fair share of experiencing extremes of fear and love and depression. Only the heart-iest of souls choose such a challenging "curriculum". I can see you before the veil saying, "I'm ready, bring IT ON."

It can be darkest before the dawn. Don't give up because you are so close to the light.

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #14 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:21:15 PM »

Quote from: no fear on December 29, 2009, 06:28:29 PM

Quote from: non-e-raygun on December 29, 2009, 06:03:50 PM
Then who is Adam?

I'll take a guess:

Adam Kadmon from the Adamic race.
Lineage origin: Elohim
Star system of origin: Pleiades

Thanks Gregg. After I looked up Adam Kadmon in google, this was the first link

The Universal Man

In Brief

"Adam Kadmon" is an ancient qabballistic word for "universal man." It is the template or design for the human being. The Temple Doors info on it is a bit complex, but may be of interest to some, so I included it below. However, just the first few paragraphs should give you a basic grasp of the subject.

The primary reason for my placing this all on Spirit Mythos is for the art series which represents the "seven creational stages through which the Adam Kadmon Light body or prototype created the Adamic race." This is a Thothic principle which I akashically translated several years ago and have now placed into my symbolic artwork. It was a very powerful experience for me to create these images and I now wish to share them with you. To begin this journey, you may either go to the Adam Kadmon Art Series now, or read on and find the link again at the end of this page.

The connection of the Divine Feminine to the Universal Man: From my akashic perspective, it is SHE who envelopes the life-giving force field of the Kadmon template. Her presence is very much depicted in the images of the bird, the moon, the clouds, the rainbow, and other symbols I have used in my artwork in this series.

Edited version of a text first published in TEMPLE DOORS - 3-96

Kadmon comes from ‘Aveer Qadmon', meaning ‘primitive air' or Azoth. Thoth tells us that the Azoth was the substance in which Prima Matra or First Matter was formed. He also states that the Adam Kadmon was a two-fold manifestation:

1) A divine pattern or schematic which is a ‘Light Body' of macrocosmic proportions

2) A formulation of that sacred patterning into a being that was supra-physical, and from which the ‘Adamic Race was spawned.

From the Azoth or primitive air in which the supernal world was created, the Adam Kadmon took substance as the ‘Kosmic Man'.

From the Records of Thoth I have translated that the Adam Kadmon or Great Prototypal Man contained nine souls which were not layered but rather fully integrated. When the etheric veil of Earth began to lower its vibrational curtain, the original Adam Kadmon dispersed its nine soul matrix into the Galactic-Earth realms. This dispersal was done in several stages. Six of these souls became creator beings within the solar Sun. Two of the remaining three Adam Kadmon souls entered the ‘Lesser Heaven' in which the re-genesis of earth was in formation. (Re-genesis in this context, meaning a re-forming of the earth's cosmic blueprint in order to accomodate changes brought on by the cause and effect of soul's interacting with the planetary consciousness of earth.)

One of these two Adam Kadmon souls fully entered into the matter-world in preparation for the future incarnation of Yeshua (Jesus). The remaining Adam Kadmon soul existed incarnationally at times within this realm of fallen matter but did not enter it karmically, that is it did not absorb the frequency of re-genesis matter into its incarnating cellular structure, this was the soul of Thoth. The one remaining soul of those three Adam Kadmon souls which did not rejoin the Elohim, held the focus of the re-genesis Eden Consciousness until the Age of Christ, when it would then join with the one already descended soul via the Host Yeshua.

.The German mystic, Rudolph Steiner stated that the akashic records had revealed to him there were two Jesus entities. Both had descended from the House of David, but through different lines. The Jesus child of the Gospel of St. Matthew descended through the Solomon lineage of David, while the Jesus child of the Gospel of St. Luke came through the Nathan lineage. Thus, we have the Solomon Jesus child, who according to Thoth, was inhabited by the soul of the Adam Kadmon which fully accepted the experience of karmic matter, and the Nathan Jesus child who contained the Adam Kadmon soul which had not entered the fallen realm until the moment of birth as Yeshua ben Josef or ‘Jesus'. Both Thoth and Steiner affirm that at the age of 12, the Solomon Jesus child died and his soul was then received into the body of the Nathan Jesus child. Thus the still living Jesus child contained both of these Adam Kadmon souls - the one fully involved with matter since the fall, and the chaste soul that was then experiencing its first incarnation into the fallen realm, although it was not to touch the binding coil of matter within its soul essence. Thoth states this coupling of the two souls was designed in order that the Jesus vehicle be able to ground the charge of the Christ, and at the same time hold the high level of pure being necessary for union.

It was not until the Baptism that the Christ actually descended into Yeshua the Host. It was then that the Archangel Arhaiel merged with the ‘Sun Spirit. As the Archangel Arhaiel Sun Spirit entered Yeshua at the Baptism, the Solomon (matter-descended) Adam Kadmon soul served as a vehicle to embed the Sun Spirit into flesh. In doing so the Solomon Adam Kadmon soul passed through the Halo of the Sun, and was thus transformed and taken into the Greater Heaven. This accomplished, the ascending soul of the Solomon Adam Kadmon which had absorbed large amounts of planetary karma like a sponge, was expurgated of this ‘heavy matter', and in this way a portion of planetary karma was lifted from the world.

The Kadmon soul that existed within the matter realm without becoming karmically involved and which is now known as Thoth Hermes or Tehuti, in the time of Jesus Christ was layered with the soul of St. John the Beloved. The Thoth Adam Kadmon soul acted as a receiving mantle for the Solomon Jesus Adam Kadmon soul in the latter's process of purification and ascension at the time of the Baptism, as the Thoth soul had not yet merged with the soul of St. John the Beloved and was still on the inner planes . The Records of Thoth also reveal to me that the Solomon Jesus soul and the Thoth soul incarnated in key positions throughout history.

We find an interesting corollary to the multiple Adam Kadmon concept in Many P. Hall's ‘The Secret Teachings of All Ages'. Mr. Hall refers to the Isarim, in which "the secret doctrine of Israel taught the existence of four Adams, each dwelling in one of the four Quabblistic worlds." Within the first of these Adams "existed all spiritual and potential realities". The second Adam "corresponded to the church of Israel that shall bruise the serpent's head". The third Adam was "clothed in a body of light", and the fourth Adam was actually the third, after the Fall, when he "took upon himself the animal shell or coat of skins".

Thoth translates the above as the three remaining Adam Kadmon souls (comprised of the Nathan & Solomon Jesus souls, and the Thoth soul) after the original six re-merged with the Elohim in the Sun of this solar system. The fourth Adam mentioned in the Isarim, is the passage of the two which descended ‘through the veil' into matter at the time of the planetary re-genesis, and is not technically a soul unto itself.

Also in ‘The Secret Teachings of All Ages', we find the following information:

"One of the profound mysteries of Qabbalism is that set forth in the Notarikon based upon the letters of the name Adam (ADM). These three letters form the initials of the names Adam, David and the Messiah, and these three personalities were said to contain one soul. As this soul represents the World Soul of humanity, Adam signifies the involving soul, the Messiah the evolving soul, and David that condition of the soul termed epigenesis."

Based on what the Records of Thoth have revealed to me, we can see the ‘ADM' as recognition of the incarnating procession of the Adam Kadmon through the Houses of first Adam, then David, and finally the Messiah or Yeshua ben Josef.

The Records of Thoth record the animiotesh, or seven creational stages through which the Adam Kadmon Light Body or prototype created the Adamic Race. These are as follows:

1) Diethopas - the ‘Bringing of Fire' or command of Spirit

2) Mythegaris - the ‘Issuance of Presence'

3) Kyithos - the ‘Whirling Pillar' or establishment of foundation

4) Esoshaktes - the ‘Developing Thought'

5) Kasemel - the ‘Plasticity'

6) Endoshek - the ‘Breath'

7) Lotii - ‘Duality'

Thoth further explains the Adam Kadmon:

"The Adam Kadmon begins as a Light Body that is created from divine imprint through the angelic field. This Light body is then integrated with a matter-molecule of part Light and part matter, which we refer to as the M-stra molecule. All humans on this planet contain a seed of the M-stra that in the future will once again become fully realized. The Adam Kadmon then, is not a single Light Being or Race, but a sacred geometry transmitted from the angelic heavens to the matter-world."

Thoth reveals to us that the Light Body of the Adam Kadmon is our pattern for a return home to the greater Light Body of Universal Being. This greater Light Body he refers to as the Asheroth, although he stresses that this is just one of its many names. The Adam Kadmon is the ‘photograph' of the Asheroth which is encoded hologramically in the Zohar body. The Zohar is the light body that permits the physical system to move into greater dimensions and universes of experience.

We as human beings, contain a hologram of the Adam Kadmon within the cellular interface to our Light bodies. This is the memory of our true Divine form, that will re-activate through the awakening of the M-stra molecule as we assume our roles of Priests and Priestesses of Light within the Universes of God.

http://www.spiritmythos.org/holy/light/kadmon_td.html

no fear · « **Reply #15 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:24:21 PM »

Quote from: living_the_illusion on December 29, 2009, 06:28:49 PM

LOL. I posted this without reading the above by Gregg.

I have people in my life like that too. I really do not know but for some reason wonder about Pleiades having some relevance?

The Hopis called the Pleiadians the Chuhukon, meaning those who cling together. They considered themselves direct descendents of the Pleiadians. The Navajos named the Pleiades the Sparkling Suns or the Delyahey, the home of the Black God. The Iroquois pray to them for happiness. The Cree came to have come to earth from the stars in spirit form first and then became flesh and blood.

Each year a medicine man performs the green corn dance where he takes 7 ears of corn from 7 fields of the 7 clans to insure a healthy harvest. Early Dakota stories speak of the Tiyami home of the ancestors as being the Pleiades. Astronomy tells us that the Pleiades rise with the sun in May and that when you die your spirit returns south to the seven sisters.

http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi1.html

Remember · « **Reply #16 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:33:48 PM »

Quote from: living_the_illusion on December 29, 2009, 07:15:41 PM

I have wanted out of "here" many, many, many times too. I never "fit", always the observer outside looking in.

I don't mean this egoically, but Evo you have given a lot of love to people here. I imagine a lot in your day to day interactions with other-selves too.

3-D is extreme right now. You are a brave soul who knew he could do "it", and I am glad you jumped into your meat-suit to play with us.

I have had my fair share of experiencing extremes of fear and love and depression. Only the heart-iest of souls choose such a challenging "curriculum". I can see you before the veil saying, "I'm ready, bring IT ON."

It can be darkest before the dawn. Don't give up because you are so close to the light.

Thank you LL. It's a trip.. I was posting on a suicide forum the other day and after realizing that I was just being a big fat pussy I went on to respond to a few threads and ended up chatting with this girl around my age.. The pain was unreal and I might have had a mental brake down if I didn't receive several soothing words from another aspect of myself..

I have so so so much Love yet obviously still have in place a value system for without I would see myself as perfect as I am now. I have those moments especially while around others sharing a similar perspective however I hardly am around those type of people.. I'm over, for the most part, any self created insecurities however at this nexus it's all about my physical integration. I don't want to do a god damn thing. What happened to wanting to help others? Where did that longing inner urge to help others go?

no fear · « **Reply #17 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:35:50 PM »

Evo, first off, welcome back to the forum

Like many of us, you know that you have a reason and a purpose for being here. You also knew, before you incarnated here, that you would experiences specific challenges as well as desires. In addition, you knew that you wanted to be here for one of the most amazing times in evolutionary history.

Dolores Cannon mentioned that the longest line of souls waiting to incarnate to this planet are those who want to come back as the handicapped, because they have a greater opportunity to eliminate a lot of bad previous karma. You're here without handicaps and there are billions of souls who wished they could be in your shoes, even through the good, the bad and the ugly.

We only get one chance (in this incarnation) to get it right. You did the right thing, not only by not following through on your thoughts, but posting it as well, because you may save someone else's life in doing so.

Now get back to moderating my forum!!!

no fear · « **Reply #18 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:42:20 PM »

Quote from: non-e-raygun on December 29, 2009, 07:21:15 PM

Thanks Gregg. After I looked up Adam Kadmon in google, this was the first link

There's also a fascinating Adam Kadmon article that is buried in our forum:

Adam Kadmon man Interview with Chandara
http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/index.php?topic=22.0

living_the_illusion · « **Reply #19 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:49:51 PM »

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I don't want to do a god damn thing. What happened to wanting to help others? Where did that longing inner urge to help others go?

Our culture mistakenly, imo, worships martyrdom with this idea. Other-selves are exactly where they need to be. Unless the request for information or help is directly asked for to me, or is clearly implicit, then the loving thing to do is no-thing.

I'm glad you don't want to do a god damn thing. DON'T. A lot of us are there. Explore yourself right now without guilt.

We didn't come here to save the world.... we came on an explorament to re-member the truth... love.

Wolven · « **Reply #20 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:52:13 PM »

How incredible Evo!

I don't feel connection to anyone, only one person I havent met.

And about that feeling of that everything is big and that it gets bigger and bigger, when I read it in your post I was like

I have felt that many times. When I was a kid I felt that several times, once I was feeling that, my dad touched me to wake me up (I wasn't sleeping but I wasn't awake) and I cried "Don't touch me!". I confirmed this was real some years ago, my dad rememberd that too.

Some time ago during meditation I felt this again but instead of opening my eyes I decided to resist it. I went through the whole thing and when it ended I felt good and remembered that I was in my bedroom xD
It was one of the first times I pacticed meditation.

^^ I thought none else had felt that before.

no fear · « **Reply #21 on:** December 29, 2009, 07:54:46 PM »

Quote from: living_the_illusion on December 29, 2009, 07:49:51 PM

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I don't want to do a god damn thing. What happened to wanting to help others? Where did that longing inner urge to help others go?

Our culture mistakenly, imo, worships martyrdom with this idea. Other-selves are exactly where they need to be. Unless the request for information or help is directly asked for to me, or is clearly implicit, then the loving thing to do is no-thing.

I'm glad you don't want to do a god damn thing. DON'T. A lot of us are there. Explore yourself right now without guilt.

We didn't come here to save the world.... we came on an explorament to re-member the truth... love.

I'm not sure if you read one of Tisho's posts today, Evo, but I think you'll connect with a lot that was written:

http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/index.php?topic=8704.0

Remember · « **Reply #22 on:** December 29, 2009, 08:39:05 PM »

Thank you guys for the support... um, do you happen to have an 800 number??

Thanks once again LL. It is true, we are all just where we need to be as we are now.. Funny I was just talking about just that with a friend on the phone.

Wolven - We're the only two!!

i'll start moderating the forum when you start supplying free booz~!

[/hijack]

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #23 on:** December 29, 2009, 08:52:47 PM »

Evo, Im sure a lot of what is said here rings true to you and what Gregg said will ring true for certain. There is someone out there right now who is being helped by your post. You and I have shared a lot in this forum and one person's life affects the all. I have grown from you being a part of my experience and I'm sure many others have/will as well. Lti's insight rings true as well. Nobody needs to be saved, as we are all a mirror of the one. All focus we have on our "selves" is a focus on the all. There is no personal victory when you see all as one.

Peace and thanks

Quote from: no fear on December 29, 2009, 07:24:21 PM

Quote from: living_the_illusion on December 29, 2009, 06:28:49 PM
LOL. I posted this without reading the above by Gregg.

I have people in my life like that too. I really do not know but for some reason wonder about Pleiades having some relevance?

The Hopis called the Pleiadians the Chuhukon, meaning those who cling together. They considered themselves direct descendents of the Pleiadians. The Navajos named the Pleiades the Sparkling Suns or the Delyahey, the home of the Black God. The Iroquois pray to them for happiness. The Cree came to have come to earth from the stars in spirit form first and then became flesh and blood.

Each year a medicine man performs the green corn dance where he takes 7 ears of corn from 7 fields of the 7 clans to insure a healthy harvest. Early Dakota stories speak of the Tiyami home of the ancestors as being the Pleiades. Astronomy tells us that the Pleiades rise with the sun in May and that when you die your spirit returns south to the seven sisters.

http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi1.html

7,7,7. I have yet to see an earth culture that does not use this ratio/formula.

even the "american culture" LOL

I came "here" with a huge amount of memory intact and when I traveled the "planes" to get my memory back I went to my first human "ancestor" and then to other planetary life in this solar system and then I went to sirius. When going down the path that I've been down I had a realization that this current life was working in reverse and that to get back to "myself" I had to merge my "aspects" back together, which went from a lunar to a solar to sirius. 15 years after the fact I start reading about this stuff and it actually blew my mind more than travelling through space/time/space. Funny

Remember · « **Reply #24 on:** December 29, 2009, 09:04:30 PM »

Quote from: non-e-raygun on December 29, 2009, 08:52:47 PM

Evo, Im sure a lot of what is said here rings true to you and what Gregg said will ring true for certain. There is someone out there right now who is being helped by your post. You and I have shared a lot in this forum and one person's life affects the all. I have grown from you being a part of my experience and I'm sure many others have/will as well. Lti's insight rings true as well. Nobody needs to be saved, as we are all a mirror of the one. All focus we have on our "selves" is a focus on the all. There is no personal victory when you see all as one.

Peace and thanks

Quote from: no fear on December 29, 2009, 07:24:21 PM
Quote from: living_the_illusion on December 29, 2009, 06:28:49 PM
LOL. I posted this without reading the above by Gregg.

I have people in my life like that too. I really do not know but for some reason wonder about Pleiades having some relevance?

The Hopis called the Pleiadians the Chuhukon, meaning those who cling together. They considered themselves direct descendents of the Pleiadians. The Navajos named the Pleiades the Sparkling Suns or the Delyahey, the home of the Black God. The Iroquois pray to them for happiness. The Cree came to have come to earth from the stars in spirit form first and then became flesh and blood.

Each year a medicine man performs the green corn dance where he takes 7 ears of corn from 7 fields of the 7 clans to insure a healthy harvest. Early Dakota stories speak of the Tiyami home of the ancestors as being the Pleiades. Astronomy tells us that the Pleiades rise with the sun in May and that when you die your spirit returns south to the seven sisters.

http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi1.html

7,7,7. I have yet to see an earth culture that does not use this ratio/formula.

even the "american culture" LOL

I came "here" with a huge amount of memory intact and when I traveled the "planes" to get my memory back I went to my first human "ancestor" and then to other planetary life in this solar system and then I went to sirius. When going down the path that I've been down I had a realization that this current life was working in reverse and that to get back to "myself" I had to merge my "aspects" back together, which went from a lunar to a solar to sirius. 15 years after the fact I start reading about this stuff and it actually blew my mind more than travelling through space/time/space. Funny

Funny? Kind of. Fucking rad dude. Your experience of spontaneous merkaba activation was flat out mind candy brotha.. yeesh.

Thanks and peace

living_the_illusion · « **Reply #25 on:** December 29, 2009, 09:06:59 PM »

Now that's funny to me. Maybe I am an earth being then. no matter

I still see through this reality dimly in a lot of ways, but I went gambling a month ago (which I don't find fun at all anymore) with some girlfriends. As we were walking into the casino, I saw a license plate with 777 on it and told the girls I was playing a seven machine all night. (I prefer blackjack and craps back from my gambling days.)

I didn't win any big "prize" or anything. Just that it was there in my consciousness. I wonder also, that my name begins with "Meri" like A-meri-can. Damn veil.

no fear · « **Reply #26 on:** December 29, 2009, 09:09:00 PM »

Quote from: non-e-raygun on December 29, 2009, 08:52:47 PM

When going down the path that I've been down I had a realization that this current life was working in reverse and that to get back to "myself" I had to merge my "aspects" back together, which went from a lunar to a solar to sirius. 15 years after the fact I start reading about this stuff and it actually blew my mind more than travelling through space/time/space. Funny

as you know, time is only relevant to this planet. To "work in reverse" is an awesome perspective that I never thought about doing. That's just one of the many reasons why I love this forum.

My eyes open wider every day.

Remember · « **Reply #27 on:** December 29, 2009, 09:18:40 PM »

Argh.. Gambling...

I have an addictive personality and I do not need a doctor or anyone else to tell me that.. Whatever I do, I do in excess.

How bad? I lost 5K within a couple months.. all the money I had.. I sold my car and lost that too.. Yup. I'm hardly proud of it but it did indeed happen.

living_the_illusion · « **Reply #28 on:** December 29, 2009, 10:24:54 PM »

Quote from: Evo on December 29, 2009, 09:18:40 PM

Argh.. Gambling...

I have an addictive personality and I do not need a doctor or anyone else to tell me that.. Whatever I do, I do in excess.

How bad? I lost 5K within a months.. all the money I had.. I sold my car and lost that too.. Yup. I'm hardly proud of it but it did indeed happen.

Hee hee. LOVE that experience. Everything done in "excess" is probably gonna make a "big" impression. Me thinks that experience was an AWESOME catalyst for anyone's be-ing. Have you ever thought that the extremes in your journey are the biggest gifts of your journey? If we all have subtle experiences, where is the opportunity to WAKE UP. You're awake Evo, love to you.

Now is the time to forgive and refine....... I'm excited for you.

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #29 on:** December 29, 2009, 10:46:16 PM »

Quote from: living_the_illusion on December 29, 2009, 09:06:59 PM

Now that's funny to me. Maybe I am an earth being then. no matter I still see through this reality dimly in a lot of ways, but I went gambling a month ago (which I don't find fun at all anymore) with some girlfriends. As we were walking into the casino, I saw a license plate with 777 on it and told the girls I was playing a seven machine all night. (I prefer blackjack and craps back from my gambling days.)

I didn't win any big "prize" or anything. Just that it was there in my consciousness. I wonder also, that my name begins with "Meri" like A-meri-can. Damn veil.

I don't think that it means your just an "earth being" (oh how uncivilized)

. I've realized that everybody in this forum brings something new to the table. This experience is all encompassing. If everybody had the same type of experiences than there would be no growth on this level or for the all. The all seeks expansion and knowing itself through every possible experience. When people get "older' they often loose the magic of experience. I remember "tripping balls" and unrolling a roll of toilet paper for 3 hours. It was the most amazing thing ever. In that state of mind I could see every contour, every detail. The pattern of the quilt held secrets beyond belief. When a child looks at life they see the newness of every moment and the details and specialness of each moment that continuously get taken for granted by many an "adult". I remember as a child thinking "I will never grow up". And the years past and I was a teenager. The world got more complex and I said "I will never grow up" and many scorned at my attitude and behavior and said life is about responsibility and blah blah blah, and adulthood came and responsibilities multiplied and I said "I will never grow up" and then I had a child and realized that many of those around me who had been lecturing me had forgotten who they are, were frustrated with their lives, jobs, had been married, divorced, and were well on the road to becoming bitter. I laughed at this because that's what children do. And now that it is realized that there is no real need to "grow up", my child and I laugh all friggen day. Except when I beat him at a game

Anyway, evryone has something to contribute and it is part of this experience to be around those that have abilities as well as perspectives other than your own. Like you said the other day your dreams and insight from them is amazing to me. I would love to lucid dream or fly or whatever. Just the thought is amazing, you know why, because it's "novel" to what I am aware of. Plain and simple.Why is it that when you have straight hair you want curly and vice versa? Most of the time, my dreams are so mundane that I dream about going to the grocery store and talking to people. Probably things I should do in "real life"

I wonder about the "age" of souls. Are some older than others, or when they mature within their own right can they tap a higher spout in the hose? I feel like a have an old soul with the spirit of a teenager, but I am aware of myself at a high level. The experiences I have had I can't even explain. What I believe people are calling 5-d is not where I am "going" or at for that matter. It is all so jumbled that I have been trying to create an order out of this chaos, not because I feel that order or categories is "the way", but because that is a strength and an ability of mine and that is one of the ways that I contribute to the all. I remember being in egypt. I remember being at atlantean preist, I remember teaching primitive people in the jungle. I remember passing through a gate of "sacred animals" to a lower sphere. I remember being on the inner planes of this planet where I have left an aspect of myself, yet I still am excited to simply be a goofy ass human who gets threatened by the cable company for paying a bill late. The real duality will hit when I go to egypt and pay money to see my own fucking mummy

Life is a gas
as long as you don't forget to pay the bill

Quote from: Evo on December 29, 2009, 09:18:40 PM

Argh.. Gambling...

I have an addictive personality and I do not need a doctor or anyone else to tell me that.. Whatever I do, I do in excess.

How bad? I lost 5K within a couple months.. all the money I had.. I sold my car and lost that too.. Yup. I'm hardly proud of it but it did indeed happen.

I have beheaded people and propped up their heads on sticks. I win.

ivytub · « **Reply #30 on:** December 29, 2009, 10:48:53 PM »

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I'm just now catching up to this discussion. . . . feeling so connected to some people, feeling so disconnected to it all, learning from each other, mirrors to each other, it's all good stuff.
For me, just about everyone in my life has let me know I'm from another planet, for some they thought I was way too weird, for others, they knew because they're from elsewhere too. I don't have a specific star or set that I feel specifically attached to, maybe because I stare endlessly at the stars and feel apart of it all. Also, when I looked at the pic at the beginning of this thread all I could think was how I've been inside that massive dark solid pyramid, laying in that perfectly cut stone box with that heavy lid, letting the stars align just right to embue me

with all those star system energies so many times (it's one of my personal meditations

), that I have to agree, I definately seem to feel an affinity with the stars. But then there is the ritual basking in the sun's energies

, moonbeams, getting intune with ocean waves

, and so on. Connection does seem to equal peace for me.

There are posts all over the internet connecting personalities or intentions to alien types

coming from various star systems - nothing coming from within for me on that however.

living_the_illusion · « **Reply #31 on:** December 29, 2009, 11:24:21 PM »

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I remember being on the inner planes of this planet where I have left an aspect of myself, yet I still am excited to simply be a goofy ass human who gets threatened by the cable company for paying a bill late. The real duality will hit when I go to egypt and pay money to see my own fucking mummy

Life is a gas
as long as you don't forget to pay the bill

Quote from: Evo on Today at 09:18:40 PM
Argh.. Gambling...

I have an addictive personality and I do not need a doctor or anyone else to tell me that.. Whatever I do, I do in excess.

How bad? I lost 5K within a couple months.. all the money I had.. I sold my car and lost that too.. Yup. I'm hardly proud of it but it did indeed happen.

I have beheaded people and propped up their heads on sticks. I win.

I am laughing out loud with this, not in jest but in resonance. My best friend and I play "my life is worse than your life" with much love and humor. Propping heads on sticks... in this incarnation, would win hands down... pardon the fact that their hands would probably be "down" in some fashion when that occurred.

I love that you can see past the veil non-e. I appreciate it a lot that you share that with all of us here.

So where are "we" now? With these momentous times, where are we? Does it make any difference "how" we make sense of this? Do we have to have conscious memory? Do we have to make "specific" actions? How do we accelerate the consciousness of one-ness?

Actually, I don't "feel" that anything has to be done or changed. I have the intuition that it happens naturally. Any thoughts?

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #32 on:** December 30, 2009, 02:03:20 AM »

Quote from: living_the_illusion on December 29, 2009, 11:24:21 PM

So where are "we" now? With these momentous times, where are we? Does it make any difference "how" we make sense of this? Do we have to have conscious memory? Do we have to make "specific" actions? How do we accelerate the consciousness of one-ness?

Actually, I don't "feel" that anything has to be done or changed. I have the intuition that it happens naturally. Any thoughts?

Things are changing as they always have. It makes me laugh and I see it as almost "cute" that humans have such a desire to find out in such detail (myself included). It is not like this "everywhere". I will quote "RA" in saying that "humans have such a fondness with the naming".

Beingness is beingness however you look at it. Change is constant. Words never quite fit.

People can say that the answers are inside of you, but that just doesn't work for everyone. So they seek answers trying to fill gaps only to create others in the process. An intellectual trait inhereted from the "parents" of the human.

I have no answers that cannot be viewed as potential questions. I too am on a journey and what I could (disclose), I won't because I know what it's like to find out for yourself and secondly that is a paradox already.

This site is filled with potential gap filler, but I think that you are right. What is to be done is what's being done. If it wasn't it wouldn't be happening. It all happens naturally. We are embedded in "nature".

That is one of the many things I love about this life. I love the veil. I love the not knowing. This plane is an such an adventure.

I will say one thing. The pattern is an arch or half circle. beings are non physical and so are planets and what have you. it gets thicker and more dense and then it ascends and becomes spiritual carrying the experience of falling into matter. The midpoint in the arch has been reached and there's nowhere to go but "up". It is up to you to create the other half of the circle

digitalrasta · « **Reply #33 on:** December 30, 2009, 03:02:13 AM »

Not star systems per se but a pic of the galaxy fully floats my boat and tugs at my heartstrings. Just wanna reach out and give it a big ol hug. Even looking at the night sky, the wonderous thing it is, I cant help but mentally plot stars in their galactic co ordinates and plot galaxies in their universal positions. Like looking thru a microscope at a drop of water, and I'm swimming in that drop of water.

Had this thought and wont make a post, just add it on here.
Its often said that without the bad you cant see the good, or without the dark there is no light.
What if you intuitively know what is good and endeavour to expand on this feeling. Essentially developing different intensities of light without referance to darkness.
Is that what we do here, beings doing what they know is "right", instinctively, paving a way that has no darkness so that even an initiate onto the new path of light can essentially do no wrong as as bad as it can get is really just the least good available.
A nice paradigm for a civilization, the worst you can do is still good.

The missus and I, when caught out doing random acts of kindness say "Sorry, my good".
Flipping that fucking up and saying "My bad" thing on its head. people look at you wierd but you can see the sparkle in their eye.

angelite · « **Reply #34 on:** December 30, 2009, 07:11:27 AM »

Quote from: no fear on December 29, 2009, 01:09:51 PM

Star Systems and Preferences
In this frame of thought, is it possible that we are attracted to those from our own star systems? It seems people have certain preferences in what they look for in others, such as intelligence, humor, body frames, musical preferences, pet preferences, preferable climates etc, that resonate with one another.

Sometimes, I'll find myself looking at a star in the sky for no reason. It might not be the brightest star (and I know what you're thinking...LOL) but there's an attraction...almost a feeling of being compelled to look at it. It makes me wonder...

Or have we simply known the people in our lives from previous lives?

Or both?

Your thoughts?

I believe both are true.

In my opinion I find it more than likely that life on earth was started by being seeded here from different star systems but our souls that inhabit these human bodies did not originate from another star system or other physical realm. So yes, we will have ancestral ties to other star systems and will be evident in the varying blood lines and ethnicities but this is in regards to our human bodies. The blood that runs through our veins and our physical features, do not indicate anything about our soul or it's origins. Are we not our soul? Don't we just have a physical body for each life experience that we are living.

I have strong ties and yearnings that are to do with other places that are not of this earth and also places here on earth that I have never visited in this lifetime. They are the homes of my ancestors and I strongly feel the ties to these places. I also feel strong ties to places I have experienced previous incarnations and also to certain ethnic groups. I feel strong ties to others that are from the same soul family as me, which reaches back further than any physical ancestor as my soul came before any physical body that I have inhabited.

Evo, my friend

Everyone here has already said what I wish to express to you so I will just say I love you and I admire your strength. You are doing right and you will continue to do right. Brightest Blessings.

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I wonder about the "age" of souls. Are some older than others,

I see it this way Non-e...........I believe that all souls were created at the same time but not all have experienced the same number of experiences or lessons. Free will allows us to decide for ourselves how quickly or slowly we wish to progress. I know I have done this many, many times over and I will soon be ready to go home if I choose but I am not so sure that I won't make a decision to have one more go, just for the heck of it

Call me a glutton for punishment but I actually enjoy and embrace this human experience, with all its difficulties. Perhaps I may choose an easy one if I decide to come back, just to experience what that is like

non-e-raygun · « **Reply #35 on:** December 30, 2009, 09:27:35 AM »

Quote from: angelite on December 30, 2009, 07:11:27 AM

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I wonder about the "age" of souls. Are some older than others,

I see it this way Non-e...........I believe that all souls were created at the same time but not all have experienced the same number of experiences or lessons. Free will allows us to decide for ourselves how quickly or slowly we wish to progress. I know I have done this many, many times over and I will soon be ready to go home if I choose but I am not so sure that I won't make a decision to have one more go, just for the heck of it Call me a glutton for punishment but I actually enjoy and embrace this human experience, with all its difficulties. Perhaps I may choose an easy one if I decide to come back, just to experience what that is like

I agree with what you say angelite. I believe this as well. My "question" is more related to the process than anything else. In my experience I was a being of sorts. As I evolved I was able to connect with a higher portion of my being which wasn't "mine" until I made the connection. Then I was "absorbed" by this being and became it. This being had it's own evolution and when that came to a certain point, that being was absorbed by an even higher being, and so on like a set of russian dolls, but before the acknowledgement was there, the memory of that being was unknown/unaccessible to me.

The concept of the heavenly man is one of the concepts that resonate most with me. You are a cell in the body of a large entity such as earth. At some point in the process you "become" the consciousness of the earth and can sense the magnetic pull of the sun. when you "become the solar consciousness" you feel the magnetic pull of other suns until you move beyond the emanations all together. The human body carries a microcosmic blueprint of the same process.

The question revolved around whether beings have a shorter memory of origin until they tap a higher spout in the universal chain of being.

Thanks for all of your insights BTW.

Wolven · « **Reply #36 on:** December 30, 2009, 12:19:30 PM »

I don't know if all souls were created at the same time. I do think that every soul has to learn something and there is not a certain amount of lives that you have to live. Someone will learn in two, someone in three, someone in ten. I aslo think that the people who seem to be more advanced are the ones who have learned what they have to learn and they came to earth by option. They are given a stronger conection to the soul so they can do what they have to do. That's why some people have had an amazing wisdom, and others are more mature but not so much. Depends on what you came here to do.

angelite · « **Reply #37 on:** December 30, 2009, 04:52:02 PM »

Quote from: Wolven on December 30, 2009, 12:19:30 PM

I do think that every soul has to learn something and there is not a certain amount of lives that you have to live. Someone will learn in two, someone in three, someone in ten. I aslo think that the people who seem to be more advanced are the ones who have learned what they have to learn and they came to earth by option. They are given a stronger conection to the soul so they can do what they have to do. That's why some people have had an amazing wisdom, and others are more mature but not so much. Depends on what you came here to do.

I agree with this too and think that it fits in with what I said. Some souls learn quickly and some more slowly. Some will choose particular lives that will cram in many lessons at once and some will not get the lesson and maybe will need to repeat certain experiences a few more times. Some will do it once, learn whatever they needed, acquire the knowledge they were seeking and move quickly on to the next. I agree also, that it does depend on what you came here to do.

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The concept of the heavenly man is one of the concepts that resonate most with me. You are a cell in the body of a large entity such as earth. At some point in the process you "become" the consciousness of the earth and can sense the magnetic pull of the sun. when you "become the solar consciousness" you feel the magnetic pull of other suns until you move beyond the emanations all together. The human body carries a microcosmic blueprint of the same process.

I like how you put this Non-e and thank you for your insights. They often help me develop mine into a broader understanding of the same concepts.

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